Saul Eslake talks with Rear Admiral (Retd) Rowan Moffitt AO, as he sheds light on Australia’s evolving geo-strategic landscape. Explore topics including China’s naval presence near Australian waters, the risks to undersea cables, the AUKUS submarine agreement’s implications, and the broader defense challenges facing Australia in a rapidly changing world. Gain unique insights into the balance of capability and intent, and the impact of global and regional powers on Australia’s security. This is a compelling exploration of the complex forces shaping our world today.