Another thought-provoking discussion from Saul Eslake and Rear Admiral Rowan Moffitt AO, RAN (retd) about Australia’s defense challenges and the delicate balancing act between the Navy, Air Force, and Army. This conversation explores key topics such as military funding rivalry, modern fleet capabilities, and how Australia addresses its strategic defense needs. From the youngest Air Force fleet to the evolving role of the Army and the Navy’s challenges, we unpack the complexities of national defense in the modern era.